This is a conversation grounded in research. Ibrahim introduces a framework that cuts through a lot of the noise: the gap between theoretical benefit and observed benefit, what AI could do for your organisation versus what it's actually delivering today. Most companies, including the biggest GCs and engineering firms, are still firmly in the exploratory phase. Their CEOs will tell you that themselves.

We get into Turner Construction's approach to enterprise AI rollout, including the SafetyCoach GPT they built and gave away free to the entire industry. We talk about the three pillars of digital transformation and why technology is the smallest part of that equation.

Ibrahim also breaks down what the generational shift in the workforce actually means for construction companies. Gen Z are entering the industry as AI natives, not just digital natives, and the GCs winning the talent war are the ones creating cultures that give them the freedom to experiment. Get that wrong and they're gone within 18 months.

We close on a note that should give the industry pause. Ibrahim has started to notice a pattern: polished AI-generated content everywhere, but when you get people in a room and take the screen away, the understanding isn't there. We're producing more, reading less, and retaining even less. For an industry that runs on expertise built over decades, that's worth taking seriously.

We talk about how he's targeting precast concrete plants, why construction manufacturing can't be outsourced (everything's too heavy), what makes dirty industrial environments different from clean rooms, and why he's deliberately designing with low cost components that do the minimum job needed.

Plus we get into the Innovator's Dilemma playbook he's using to disrupt from the bottom, why he's manufacturing everything in Australia up to a thousand units a year, and his vision for robotic vision becoming the "sentience of a factory" — making decisions about what's happening in manufacturing and what to do about it.

Good chat about practical automation in heavy industry, the global opportunity in precast and construction materials, and where quality control technology is actually heading.

Doug Vincent is co-founder and CEO of Mastt, a construction project management platform focused on cost tracking and financial controls. They've got customers managing billions in projects across 10 countries.

Doug's been deploying AI in the product for a while now, so we talked about what that actually looks like in practice:

• AI agents read through contracts, invoices, and progress claims (even 500-page documents) and auto-populate the cost tracker
• Takes work that used to require 30 minutes to an hour down to about 15 seconds
• The AI reviews payments against contract terms and flags non-compliance issues that project managers typically miss
• Users can QA the data as it comes in until they trust it enough to run in the background

We got into how Mastt started. Doug was working on a big government portfolio, drowning in thousands of spreadsheets that all had different formats. Told his boss "enough of this madness" and built software to roll up project finances automatically. That first client is still a customer today.

Other stuff we covered:

• Why they run a freemium model in an industry that's traditionally enterprise sales-led
• His advice to founders: avoid innovation budgets and transformation teams, focus on core workflows with real customers who'll actually pay
• 30% of their business is outside Australia, all organic growth—no paid ads
• Where he sees this going: AI project team members you interact with via email like another human

Doug's also coaching other construction tech founders and thinks Australia leads the world on construction tech adoption because we've got less labour and need software to move things forward.

Find Mastt at mastt.com (two T's). Doug's on LinkedIn as Vincent Doug.

Noel Brady is co-founder and COO of ProjectMark, a construction-specific CRM. He spent 10 years as a project manager across Irish, UK, and US markets, most recently with Tishman Construction on a $2 billion project in downtown San Francisco.

The company started because Noel kept seeing contractors lose work despite being qualified. "Death by a thousand cuts" - messy BD processes, uncoordinated proposals, disjointed procurement. He and his co-founders knew these companies could deliver on site, but they were getting knocked out in the selection process.

The bigger problem: 47% of construction workers are aging out over the next few years. Knowledge lives in people's heads, and if that transfer doesn't happen, the industry's in trouble. You can't just pick up the phone and call the guy who built a similar project down the street anymore - you need that information centralized and searchable.

Why companies choose ProjectMark:

• Built specifically for construction workflows, terminology, and processes
• Deep integration with Vista (biggest ERP in the market) to pull project history, financials, team data
• Uses that historical data to help pick the right opportunities, not just the biggest ones
• 90% of their product roadmap comes from customer feedback

The "Moneyball" approach:

ProjectMark doesn't automatically tell you to chase every billion-dollar opportunity. That project might kill your business. Instead, it might recommend five $10M projects where you've worked with the client before, your backlog is lower, and you have the right team available to actually win and deliver.

We talked about pre-construction, why construction companies get weeks not months to prove software value, and how their dev team 3X'd productivity using tools like Cursor. Noel's clear that you can't vibe code an enterprise CRM - you can build the shell, but not something that services thousands of businesses.

Trimble Corporate Ventures is on their cap table. The goal is to be the next Procore, but in a different space - CRM as the hub with spokes coming off it for resource planning, financials, proposals, and AI-powered business insights.

Find ProjectMark at projectmark.com. Noel's on LinkedIn.

Key topics covered:

• Trimble's investment sweet spot: Why Series A startups are the focus
• The shocking reality: Construction represents 14% of global GDP but gets only 1% of VC funding
• How the Construction Startup Competition sources 500+ companies annually
• Building two-sided partnerships between corporates and startups
• The evolving role of CIOs in construction companies
• Interoperability challenges vs. data protection in the AI era
• Why getting construction workers back to the field (not the office) drives product development

Whether you're a construction professional curious about emerging technologies, a startup founder looking to understand corporate partnerships, or simply interested in how innovation happens in traditional industries, this conversation offers valuable insights into the intersection of construction and venture capital.

In this episode, John sits down with Steve White, General Manager at Civillo, to unpack how spatial data is changing the way civil infrastructure projects are delivered. Steve started his career as a surveyor, and he explains the everyday bottlenecks that pushed his team to build Civillo; a simple, web-based way for engineers, supervisors, managers, and clients to access and work with spatial information without specialist software.

Steve breaks down how Civillo lets teams bring CAD, GIS, BIM, 12D, drone imagery, and underground services into one shared workspace, giving everyone on the project the same view of what’s happening. They talk through real-world impacts: cutting time spent on survey requests, reducing rework, improving communication, and modernising painful workflows like excavation and HotWorks permits.

Steve also shares how Civillo’s adoption grew organically across major contractors like Seymour Whyte, why project-wide access is core to their model, and how digitising permits has become one of the platform’s biggest productivity wins.

A practical, ground-level look at how better spatial visibility improves safety, reduces risk, and helps teams build things right the first time.

They dig into examples across Australia, London, and Dublin, including how air quality sensors boost worker performance, how simple changes like mobile access credentials eliminate daily friction, and how AI is reshaping traditional engineering design. Mike also talks through retrofitting older buildings, the myths that hold owners back, and why 95% of the global building stock is where the real opportunity sits.

A practical, grounded look at what’s possible right now, and what’s coming next.

In this episode, Rory shares the pivotal moment when early customers told them to "leave the drone" and focus on the data platform instead—a strategic decision that transformed their trajectory. We dive deep into how they scaled in an notoriously difficult industry through smart distribution partnerships with Trimble, a viral business model that spreads site-to-site, and early technology bets on cloud-first architecture.

Key Topics:

• The strategic pivot from hardware to data that built a global platform
• How they achieved viral distribution in construction through business model design
• Managing operational complexity at 300+ employees across multiple continents
• AI integration strategy and the workflow revolution coming in 2026
• Leadership philosophy: counting up instead of down and building structural resilience
• Future vision: sensors, robotics, and the construction site of 2035

Rory provides candid insights on the patience and grit required to succeed in heavy industries, the importance of outlasting competition, and why "there's no such thing as overnight success" in construction technology.

About the Guest: Rory San Miguel is CEO and co-founder of Propeller, the leading drone mapping platform for construction, mining, and heavy industry. He's a recipient of the 2025 NSW Pearcey Entrepreneur of the Year Award and has built Propeller into a global platform serving 2,000+ companies.

Hani shares the early moments that pulled him toward tech, from GSM-connected site systems in the 2000s to today’s push toward AI-enabled operations. They dig into the realities of supporting remote projects, why the biggest challenges now are organisational rather than technical, and how Seymour Whyte builds trust with engineers so digital tools don’t feel like top-down mandates.

Hani also explains how they evaluate new tools, the role of enterprise architecture, why customer success matters just as much internally as it does for vendors, and how API-first platforms are shaping the future of design and construction workflows.

They finish with the big one: AI. Hani lays out his goal for the next 12–24 months; 800 out of 1,000 Seymour Whyte employees using AI agents as part of their daily routine, and why broad, everyday gains across documents, meetings, tasks, and workflows will matter more than narrow, high-risk experiments.

A grounded, candid look at what modern tech leadership in civil construction actually requires.

Each episode we dig into the tools, tactics, and lessons from the people shaping how these industries actually work — from startup founders to site foremen and asset operators.

I'm your host John Naughton.