Hosted by two friends and colleagues who became young widows before ever meeting each other, this podcast was born from shared lived experience, unexpected connection, and the conversations that happen when you finally feel safe enough to tell the truth.

After three years of working side by side, Ashlie and Jaleesa realised not only that they shared grief and loss, but that their lives had intersected in countless unseen ways long before they met. Instead, they found each other at a time they both needed it most.

This podcast explores life during and beyond grief — parenting, work, identity, love, survival, growth, and the messy in-between. Some conversations are heavy, some are hopeful, some are raw, and some are surprisingly funny — but all are honest.

They’re not therapists. They don’t have the answers. They’re two friends sharing lived experience, holding space, and asking the question that follows loss, change, and survival:

What’s next??