Jasmine Yong is Natasha's older sister and works in real estate. Once unsure about her direction in life, she shares how she gradually found purpose through trusting the process, setting meaningful goals, and learning to appreciate both personal growth and family. In this conversation, Jasmine reflects on destiny, ambition, gratitude, and the evolving understanding of what gives life meaning.

本集来宾

Jasmine Yong 是 Natasha 的姐姐，目前從事房地產行業。曾經的她對人生方向感到迷惘，不知道自己存在的意義，也不確定未來該往哪裡走。透過不斷探索、自我反思，以及相信宇宙的安排，她逐漸找到屬於自己的道路。在這集節目中，她分享了對人生意義、目標、家庭、成功與成長的看法，以及如何在經歷中慢慢找到自己的位置。

Key Insights

1. Meaning Isn't Found Overnight

Jasmine spent years questioning why she existed and what her purpose was. Rather than finding a single answer, she discovered that meaning emerges through living, growing, and moving forward one step at a time.

"I used to wonder why I was alive. Now I think meaning reveals itself as we continue experiencing life."

2. Goals Create Direction

One of the biggest changes in Jasmine's life came from setting goals. Having something to work towards transformed her motivation, confidence, and sense of purpose.

"Without a goal, I felt lost. Once I had something to aim for, life started moving forward."

3. Trusting the Universe While Taking Responsibility

Jasmine believes that life unfolds according to a larger plan, but she also recognizes that how we respond to life's circumstances remains our own responsibility.

"The universe may arrange the opportunities, but how we react is up to us."

4. Success Looks Different for Everyone

Despite not following a conventional academic path, Jasmine built a career she genuinely enjoys. Her story challenges the idea that success only comes through one route.

"The choices I made brought me to where I am today, and I'm grateful for that journey."

5. Gratitude Deepens With Age

As she grows older, Jasmine finds herself appreciating her parents more than ever. What once felt ordinary now feels like an extraordinary expression of love and sacrifice.

"When you're young, you think your parents' sacrifices are normal. When you grow older, you realize how much they gave."

6. Life Is a Collection of Experiences

Rather than obsessing over finding one ultimate purpose, Jasmine has begun to appreciate life as a series of experiences, lessons, and relationships that collectively shape who we become.

"Maybe the meaning of life isn't one destination. Maybe it's everything we experience along the way."

我們聊了什麼

1. 人生意義不是突然找到的

Jasmine 曾經長期困惑於自己為什麼活著、存在的意義是什麼。但隨著時間推進，她發現人生的答案不是一次性找到的，而是在經歷中慢慢浮現。

「以前我一直在問人生的意義是什麼，現在我覺得答案是在活著的過程裡慢慢出現的。」

2. 目標讓人生有方向

對 Jasmine 來說，人生最大的轉變之一是開始為自己設定目標。目標不只是結果，而是一種讓自己持續前進的動力。

「以前沒有目標，做什麼都好像沒有結果。後來有了目標，整個人開始往前走。」

3. 相信宇宙，也相信自己

她相信人生有某種安排，但同時認為人依然擁有選擇權。宇宙給予機會，而如何回應則掌握在自己手中。

「宇宙安排了道路，但怎麼走是自己的決定。」

4. 成功沒有標準答案

儘管沒有走傳統升學路線，Jasmine 仍然在房地產領域找到適合自己的位置。她的經歷提醒我們，成功不只有一種樣貌。

「如果當初走了另一條路，我可能不會成為現在的自己。」

5. 長大後才懂得感恩

隨著年齡增長，她越來越能理解父母的付出，也開始希望能回饋家人。

「以前覺得那些都是理所當然，長大後才發現那是很大的愛。」

6. 人生本身就是意義

從不斷追尋人生意義，到慢慢接受人生是一連串體驗的總和，Jasmine 開始享受探索的過程，而不是執著於找到唯一答案。

「也許人生的意義不是一個終點，而是一路上的所有經歷。」

Guest Question For The Next Guest

"What do you think is the meaning of marriage?"

留给下一位来宾的问题

「你覺得結婚的意義是什麼？」

我的弟弟 Bryan，今年 22 岁，即将大学毕业。虽然这些年我们都在各自的人生轨道上前进，但每次坐下来认真聊天的时候，总会发现彼此都成长了许多，也有了不一样的想法。

本集简介

这一集是一场关于爱、连接与成长的兄妹深聊。我们聊了这些年来最大的改变、如何看待时间与人生、什么样的关系让人感到真正的连接，以及在这个快速变化的时代里，我们如何寻找属于自己的快乐与意义。

我们聊了什么

• 长大后，人生 priorities 是怎么慢慢改变的
• 为什么越来越觉得活在当下很重要
• 时间和金钱之间，哪个更珍贵
• 什么样的人会让你感觉真正有连接
• 爱、理解，以及关系里双向付出的重要性
• 社群媒体时代下的孤独感与真实连接
• 快乐到底是什么，以及如何找到属于自己的满足感

本集小收获

• 人生充满未知，所以不要总把重要的事情留到以后。
• 时间是我们能给自己和爱的人最珍贵的礼物。
• 真正的连接不一定来自很多话，而是来自舒服与理解。
• 一段关系要走得长远，双方的投入和努力都很重要。
• 比较很容易让人感到孤单，但真实的连接能让人找回归属感。
• 快乐不一定来自拥有更多，有时候反而来自想要得更少。
• 每一个困难和挫折里，都可能藏着值得学习的东西。

Bryan 说过的一句话

「世界上没有完全不好的事情，每件事都会留下值得学习的东西。」

留给下一位来宾的问题

你觉得过程比较重要，还是结果比较重要？为什么？

Overview

A sibling deep talk about love, connection, growth, and what really matters in life. We reflected on how we've changed, what we've learned from getting older, and how our views on relationships, happiness, time, and the future continue to evolve.

Guest

My younger brother, Bryan- 22 years old, about to graduate, and someone who has changed a lot (just like the rest of us) over the past few years.

Key Topics

• Growing up and how our priorities change over time
• Learning to appreciate the present and not waiting forever to do the things that matter
• Why time feels more valuable than money
• What creates a genuine connection with another person
• Love, understanding, and why relationships need effort from both sides
• Loneliness, social media, and finding meaningful connection in a digital world
• What happiness means and how lowering our expectations can sometimes bring more contentment

Key Takeaways

• Life is uncertain, so don't always save everything for "one day."
• Time is one of the most valuable things we can give to ourselves and the people we love.
• Real connection isn't always about talking—it can also be about feeling comfortable and understood.
• Relationships work best when both people are willing to show up and put in effort.
• Comparison can make us feel disconnected, even when we're surrounded by people.
• Happiness isn't necessarily about having more; sometimes it's about wanting less.
• Even difficult experiences can teach us something if we're open to learning from them.

Quote From Bryan

"There's no such thing as a completely bad experience. Every difficult thing leaves you with something to learn."

Question for the Next Guest

What do you think is more important: the process or the outcome?

• Natasha speaks with her mom, Melinda Tan, about her life journey
• Focus on career, motherhood, sacrifice, and finding contentment
• Warm and personal reflection on life choices and fulfillment

Guest Introduction

• Melinda Tan, 57, retiree
• Former accountant (ACCA-qualified), worked at IBM
• Retired at age 33 to become a full-time mother of three

Key Topics

1. Early Career and Life Decisions

• Studied and worked in Malaysia
• Had a structured life plan (marriage at 28, first child at 30)
• Worked in a demanding accounting role with long hours

2. Turning Point

• Daughter asked her not to go to work and just be present
• Realised emotional importance of being there for her child
• Decided to resign with support from her husband

3. Motherhood Experience

• Described as challenging but very fulfilling
• Experienced burnout, especially with three children
• Valued being present for milestones and daily moments

4. Career vs Family Reflections

• Occasionally wonders what life would be like if she continued working
• Acknowledges others progressed in their careers
• Sees motherhood as a different form of success

5. Views on Having Children

• Believes having children brings meaning and completeness to life
• Acknowledges both child-free and parenting paths are valid
• Emphasises it is a personal choice

6. Burnout and Self-Care

• Importance of having “me time”
• Recharging through meeting friends and doing enjoyable activities
• Need to balance giving to others and taking care of oneself

7. Life After Parenting

• Now has freedom to explore personal interests
• Engaging in hobbies like calligraphy, painting, and music
• Feels she is currently living her dream

8. Advice for Work and Stress

• Identify source of stress (workload, environment, interest)
• Learn to switch off from work
• Consider change if necessary

9. Advice for Feeling Lost

• Take a step back and reflect on what you want in life
• Start with small steps
• Focus on enjoying the process

10. Life Philosophy

• Give your best in everything you do
• Practice acceptance
• Change what you can, accept what you cannot
• Letting go reduces unnecessary stress

Key Insight

• If something is not within your control, accept it and move on

Question for the Next Guest

• What do you want in life

Afternoon tea with dad.