Grub & Grace

Doubting Faithfully w Keith Long

Mon, 11 May 2026 12:00:00 GMT

In this episode, we sit down with the ideas from Doubting Faithfully by Keith Long to explore what it means to deconstruct faith without abandoning it entirely. Instead of treating doubt as failure, we examine how it can be a sign of growth—a willingness to move beyond inherited certainty and into something more honest, even if it’s less comfortable.

We also dig into the unsettling pull sometimes felt within high-control religious spaces—the sense that questioning could cost you everything, yet not questioning might cost you yourself. From there, we wrestle with what it means to hold tension: to entertain difficult ideas without immediately accepting or rejecting them. Why is that so hard? What systems, fears, or social pressures keep people from engaging deeply with their own beliefs? And how might learning to sit with uncertainty actually reflect a deeper kind of spiritual maturity?

Ultimately, this conversation invites us to loosen our grip on needing to be right. What if being wrong isn’t something to fear, but something to learn from? What if faith isn’t about certainty, but about curiosity, humility, and the courage to keep going anyway? Pull up a chair—this is a space where doubt isn’t the end of faith, but part of how it becomes something real.

Keith Long has been a Lutheran pastor for 14 years and is the author of three books, Doubting Faithfully: Confessions of a Skeptical Pastor, Growing Spirit Wise: A Heretic’s Guide to Resurrection and Eternal Life, and Moviemakers, a novella. Keith has also written for New Testament scholar Bart D. Ehrman's blog, studies expanded consciousness in his free time, and loves his home state of Minnesota where he resides with his family.

His website is www.authorkeithlong.com and is currently developing a Lecture Series entitled "Jesus Beyond Christianity" 7 in-person and online presentations exploring pre-Christian culture and the future of religion.

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Xtian Leftists Against Christofascism

Mon, 04 May 2026 12:00:00 GMT

Episode Notes — Xtian Leftists Against Christofascism

Welcome to Grub & Grace, a space that pushes back on the idea that Christianity belongs to one political ideology. Here, we take seriously the need to question what we’ve been taught—especially when faith gets tangled up with power. In this episode, we confront how Christian Nationalism continues to shape public life, and how certain church leaders have traded prophetic witness for proximity to empire—dressing up domination, exclusion, and nationalism in the language of “God’s will.”

We dig into what some are calling an “attack on empathy”—how compassion itself is being reframed as weakness or even heresy in certain spaces. From policies that harm marginalized communities to rhetoric that dehumanizes immigrants, queer folks, and BIPOC communities, we explore how systems built to benefit cis-het white power structures ultimately dehumanize everyone. This includes a hard look at the realities of immigration enforcement and the fear it instills in families and communities, raising urgent questions about justice, dignity, and who gets to be seen as fully human.

At its core, this episode is about reclaiming faith from the grips of empire. What does it look like to follow a tradition rooted in liberation rather than control? How do we resist forms of Christianity that align with fascism while building something more honest, more just, and more life-giving in its place? Pull up a chair—this is a conversation that refuses easy answers but insists on something better.

Anthony DePice is an activist and an organizer. You can find him on all social platforms under the name Anthony DePice.

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Won't You Be My Neighbor w Ian McConnell

Mon, 27 Apr 2026 12:00:00 GMT

In this episode, we start with a simple but disarming question: Who is our neighbor? And we don’t stop there—we flip it on its head and retort with: Who acts LIKE a neighbor?

Using Fred Rogers as a guide, we explore what emotional intelligence looks like in practice—how curiosity, empathy, and emotional awareness can shape the way we show up for one another. We revisit his well-known idea of “the helpers,” asking what it really means to look for them—and more importantly, to be one—in a world that often feels fractured and overwhelmed.

From there, we wrestle with the moral weight of First They Came by Martin Niemöller, reflecting on silence, complicity, and the cost of failing to see others as our neighbors until it’s too late.

This episode holds together tenderness and challenge—inviting us to expand who we include in our circle of care, to resist the instinct to look away, and to consider what it might actually take to answer that question, not just in theory, but in practice.

Ian McConnell is a pastor of The Fabric church in Minneapolis, MN. He is a partner to the platform “Reclaim The Church” with Rozella Haydeé White and Pastor Tuhina Rasche (ReclaimTheChurch.substack.com and @ReclaimTheChurch on IG). You can also find him on TikTok @iangmcconnell.

BSE: Once An Addict, Always An Addict & J-O-Y

Thu, 23 Apr 2026 12:00:00 GMT

In this episode, we examine two common ideologies often promoted in religious rehab and recovery spaces: “Once an addict, always an addict” and “J-O-Y: Jesus first, others second, yourself last.” While these ideas are frequently presented as spiritually grounded wisdom, we explore how they can become harmful when used as the foundation for addiction treatment.

We discuss how “once an addict, always an addict” may reinforce shame, hopelessness, and a fixed identity around addiction rather than recovery, and how the J-O-Y framework can encourage chronic self-neglect, poor boundaries, and the belief that personal needs are inherently less important than everyone else’s.

This episode looks at why these teachings persist, why many people find comfort in them, and how even well-intentioned beliefs can create damaging outcomes when applied uncritically in recovery settings.

Troubled Teens VS The Industry: A Look Inside Teen Challenge

Mon, 20 Apr 2026 12:00:00 GMT

This episode we're getting into what's known generally as the troubled teen industry. There are many facilities and programs within this term, but today we will be looking into the treatment program known as Teen Challenge.

Teen Challenge is often described as a place where faith and recovery meet — a program helping struggling teens find a new path. But depending on who you talk to, the story can sound very different.

I am joined today by Lynn Green, a former student of these facilities before she began researching them, which is now an essential aspect of her work. She has a unique experience and story that we explore and are able to dive deeper into the philosophy of this particular treatment facility.

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Instagram: @lynn.m.green

Disclaimer: Some of what we discuss may be triggering for some, so be sure to be aware of that. There are things we will say that may not equate to the same experience for every person. Even the way every facility and affiliate of Teen Challenge is run can vary a bit. We understand that our critique of Teen Challenge does not speak for all treatment programs within the troubled teen industry, and there are programs that are doing some very helpful work. All views expressed are their own.

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BSE: Cults Part 2 - Why It Feels So Hard To Leave A Cult

Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:00:00 GMT

Leaving a cult or high-control group is often far more difficult than outsiders understand. In this episode, we explore the psychological and emotional barriers that make departure so overwhelming for those inside these environments.

We begin by examining accelarousal—the intense stress response triggered by major acceleration events such as sudden doctrinal shifts, leadership crises, punishment, or escalating demands within a group. We discuss how prolonged exposure to these events can overwhelm the nervous system and contribute to acute stress disorder, leaving members in a state of fear, confusion, and emotional paralysis.

From there, we look at the many reasons people struggle to leave high-control groups, including fear of punishment, loss of family and community, identity collapse, financial dependence, and the terror of facing an uncertain world outside the group.

Finally, we discuss practical and compassionate ways to support someone who may be trying to leave a cultic environment—what helps, what harms, and why patience and empathy matter far more than confrontation.

This episode offers a deeper understanding of why leaving a cult is not simply a matter of “walking away,” but often a painful and destabilizing process that can reshape every part of a person’s life.

BSE: Cults Part 1 - How Cults Work

Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:00:00 GMT

What actually makes a cult… a cult?

In this episode, we break down the mechanics of high-control groups and explore why cults are far more psychologically sophisticated than most people realize. Rather than focusing on strange beliefs or sensational stereotypes, we examine the systems of control that define cultic environments.

We begin by asking the deceptively simple question: What is a cult? From there, we unpack the eight patterns of thought reform commonly found in high-control groups—psychological tactics used to shape belief, suppress dissent, and create dependency.

We also explore the six conditions that make undue influence possible, looking at how ordinary people can be manipulated in the right circumstances through isolation, authority, fear, and environmental control.

Finally, we apply these frameworks to a real-world example by examining a former cult, showing how these dynamics operate in practice and why leaving such groups is often far more difficult than outsiders assume.

Whether your interest is psychological, religious, sociological, or just morbidly curious—this episode offers a deeper look at how cults function, why they work, and what makes them so hard to escape.

At Eternity's Gate: The Theology of Van Gogh

Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:59:00 GMT

Vincent van Gogh is usually remembered for three things: swirling paintings, emotional instability, and that one extremely over-discussed ear incident.

But before he became one of history’s most iconic artists, Van Gogh was chasing a very different calling: ministry.

Born the son of a Dutch pastor, Vincent once hoped to follow in his father’s footsteps. He studied theology, preached to coal miners, and threw himself into faith with the kind of intensity that made people wonder whether he was deeply devoted or just… a lot.

When the pulpit didn’t work out, Van Gogh didn’t abandon his spiritual questions—he redirected them.

In this episode, Mark and returning guest Joshua Noel explore how Van Gogh’s theology shaped his art, how his religious upbringing influenced his worldview, and why his paintings may be less “pretty landscapes” and more visual sermons with excellent lighting.

Come for the sunflowers. Stay for the existential angst.

Joshua Noel is a licensed minister, an aspiring Taoist Christian, an open theist (not process), taught hermeneutics & children's church for many years. He has been a podcaster for a long time with the Anazao podcast network. Under the umbrella of Anazao, you can find him as part of the Whole Church Pod, Systematic Geekology, and Dummy for Theology. He also has his own substack.

BSE: How the Grinch Found Christmas

Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:24:43 GMT

This Bite Sized Episode peels back the fuzzy green wrapping paper on a figure we assume we’ve already figured out. Spoiler: we haven’t. The Grinch is more than a sour-faced holiday thief with a bad attitude and a questionable relationship to joy—he’s a surprisingly layered character with a long shadow and some real philosophical bite. In short, this green recluse has range.

We’ll explore the Grinch’s many incarnations and what they reveal about belief, culture, and the strange ways we tell moral stories—past and present. Expect detours into symbolism, spirituality, and a few ideas that usually get shoved to the edge of the sleigh and avoided with a thirty-nine-and-a-half-foot pole.

Before you decide this episode is proof that our hearts are “two sizes too small,” stick around. Yes, there may be some garlic in the soul—but as the song reminds us, one person’s toxic sludge is another person’s potpourri. So grab some roast beast, check your Christmas cheer at the door (or don’t), and come see how the Grinch didn’t just steal Christmas—he complicated it.

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Colonial Outcast w Mark Wayne

Thu, 20 Nov 2025 11:00:51 GMT

What does revolutionary spirit look like? History has shown us examples from the French Revolution to the Sandanistas in Nicaragua. Mark Wayne hops on to have a discussion about this very topic as we navigate through Palestine, voting, and the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party.

Mark Wayne is an ex-army national guardsman who uses his platform to inform and bring people together. He co-hosts the podcast Colonial Outcasts with Greg Stoker.

The Curiosity of Theology Beer Camp

Mon, 03 Nov 2025 11:00:56 GMT

Have you ever asked big theological questions about faith and God that you felt weren't acceptable in your immediate community to share? Have you ever felt that your faith tradition hasn't been living up to your vision of how it should be?

You're not alone, and neither should it be that way. For us, Theology Beer Camp has been a space that allowed us to be us, and created a space to express yourself free of judgement and shame.

Join us as we quest through Theology Beer Camp in St. Paul, MN, 2025.

BSE: Hellfire and Disgust

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:00:58 GMT

Is there a unified concept of hell? That being eternal, conscious, torment.

Does salvation give us a free pass to ignore evil in the world today?

How does disgust tie in to the concept of hell?

We will be exploring all of these questions on this episode. Buckle up, because we're about to find out why we're disgusted with hell.

BSE: Satan & Other Demons of Mythology

Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:01:14 GMT

From Mesopotamian spirits to the fiery figure of Satan, demons have haunted human imagination for millennia. In this episode, we journey through ancient mythologies and religious lore, uncovering how different cultures have defined and described these shadowy beings. We’ll explore infamous demons of early civilizations, trace their influence through Jewish and Christian traditions, and ask the big questions: Who is Satan really, and how does he fit into the broader story of the Bible? By looking at the evolution of these figures, we reveal how demons reflect cultural fears, moral struggles, and the eternal human search for meaning.

Hell Bent w Brian Recker

Mon, 13 Oct 2025 10:00:38 GMT

What comes to mind when the word “hell” is mentioned? Demons with pitchforks? Endless torment? Listening to ASMR of your grandparents eating sandwiches while they breathe through their nose?

My guest today is Brian Recker, author of the new book Hellbent. Brian is a former evangelical pastor, public theologian, speaker, and writer on Christian spirituality without exclusionary dogma and he helps explain why we can stop worrying about hell and start focusing on love.

You can find Brian on his website https://www.brianrecker.com/

As well as Instagram @berecker

Find out more about his book, Hell Bent, here.

BSE: Are Demons Real?

Mon, 06 Oct 2025 10:01:16 GMT

Are demons real—or are they a story we’ve been telling ourselves for centuries? In this episode, we attempt to offer an alternative view of looking at demons as well as how the origins of demons may just be literary and cultural creations and how the idea evolved across history. From ancient texts to medieval folklore and modern horror, demons have been less about actual creatures lurking in the dark and more about shaping human behavior. We unpack how the concept of demonic forces has been used to provoke fear, enforce moral codes, and ultimately control communities. By looking at demons through the lens of psychology, storytelling, and power, we reveal how this enduring myth says more about us than about the supernatural.

Demons, and the Power of Fear w Brandon Forman

Mon, 29 Sep 2025 10:00:35 GMT

Is hell really in the Bible? Are demons as ancient and evil as we think? This week, guest Brandon Forman joins us to dig into the surprising origins of these spiritual concepts—from sheol and Gehenna to ancient Greek daimons and New Testament visions. We explore how these ideas evolved and why they still influence mental health, politics, and even how we view the world and others around us today.

Tune in for myth-busting, theology, and big questions about good, evil, and who gets to define them.

Beyond the Comfort Zone w Father Castello

Mon, 04 Aug 2025 10:00:55 GMT

In this powerful unscripted conversation, we sit down with Father Castello to explore the intersection of faith, justice, and discomfort. From reviewing the first days of Pope Leo XIV, to the necessity of collaborative communication and living boldly outside our comfort zones, we wrestle with the hard realities of today—like the ongoing existence of concentration camps and modern-day captivity. Rooted in the radical call of the Gospel, we confront the question: if we can’t see Jesus in the poor, how can we see Him in the chalice?

Father Castello is an independent Catholic priest serving in a sober bar community near Charlotte, NC, called Christ the Healer. Known for his accessibility and grounded spiritual direction practice, he brings Christ’s presence to unconventional spaces.

Find him on his website fathercastello.net

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BSE: Be Present

Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:01:02 GMT

Ever tried talking to someone and ended up in a word salad with a side of frustration? Same. In this episode, we dive into the deceptively tricky art of actually listening—not just nodding until it's your turn to talk. With a wink and a few well-timed jokes, we unpack Carl Rogers' person-centered therapy (he was the real MVP of "I hear you"), why collaborative communication is harder than assembling IKEA furniture without instructions, and how active listening might just save your next awkward conversation. It's psychology, it's communication, it’s a little bit therapy-ish—but with fewer couches and more sarcasm.

Come for the insights, stay for the gentle roast of your conversational bad habits.

BSE: Star Wars Episode 3: Return of the Resistance

Mon, 21 Jul 2025 10:01:23 GMT

In our third Star Wars trilogy episode, we explore how Star Wars—and especially the series Andor—portray resistance not as a grand myth, but as a gritty, personal fight against oppression. Andor brings a raw, grounded lens to rebellion, showing the everyday sacrifices, moral compromises, and quiet acts of defiance that fuel real change. From imperial surveillance to systemic injustice, the show mirrors the very real struggles faced in our own socio-political world today. What does it mean to resist when the odds feel insurmountable? And how can fiction inspire real-world action?

Join us as we connect galaxies far, far away to the pressing realities of here and now.

This episode should be free of any meaningful spoilers. But just in case, make sure to watch the show before jumping in.

You can find Dr. Chris Kempshall's book Star Wars: The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire here.

Music in episode by Luis Humanoide & Cody Martin with permission and/or copyright usage allowed.

BSE: Star Wars Episode 2: The Empire Strikes Again

Mon, 14 Jul 2025 10:02:06 GMT

In part 2 of our Star Wars trilogy, we dive deep into the dark heart of Star Wars, using The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire by Chris Kempshall as our guide. Drawing sharp parallels between the fictional Empire and real-world history, we explore how Star Wars mirrors the rise of authoritarian regimes, propaganda, militarism, and the slow erosion of democracy. We break down the inner workings of the Galactic Empire—from its bureaucracy and chain of command to its use of fear and control—and examine how its creation wasn’t just evil, but eerily familiar.

What does the fall of the Republic teach us about our own world? And how can sci-fi help us better understand the systems we live in? Join us for a thoughtful, galactic deep dive into power, history, and the myth that continues to speak volumes.

You can find Dr. Chris Kempshall's book Star Wars: The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire here.

Music in episode by Luis Humanoide & Cody Martin with permission and/or copyright usage allowed.

BSE: Star Wars Episode 1: A Recycled Hope

Mon, 07 Jul 2025 10:00:24 GMT

In Part 1 of our Star Wars trilogy, we journey to a galaxy far, far away to explore the deeply political roots of the beloved saga. From the fall of the Republic to the rise of the Empire, Star Wars has always been more than just lightsabers and space battles—it’s a reflection of real-world power struggles, corruption, and resistance. We unpack the allegories behind the Jedi, the dangers of authoritarianism, and how George Lucas used sci-fi to comment on war, democracy, and the fragility of freedom. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a casual viewer, this episode peels back the layers of myth to reveal the very real politics beneath.

The rebellion has only just begun.

You can find Dr. Chris Kempshall's book Star Wars: The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire here.

Music in episode by Luis Humanoide & Cody Martin with permission and/or copyright usage allowed.

History of Food in Video Games w Joshua Noel

Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:01:12 GMT

In this flavorful episode, we dig into the delicious history of food in video games—how pixelated meals became cultural icons and why they’ve always mattered more than just health points. From power-up mushrooms to pixel-perfect potions, we explore how food shapes storytelling and gameplay.

We also dive into the deeper meaning of symbols in art and games, unpacking how visual language communicates emotion, culture, and identity.

And for the grand finale: we roll up our sleeves and share a few real-life recipes inspired by our favorite in-game dishes—yes, we actually made them, and yes, we have opinions.

Whether you're a foodie, a gamer, or just hungry for insight, this episode serves up something special.

BSE: Morality Over Legality

Mon, 23 Jun 2025 10:00:47 GMT

Gather ‘round the campfire for an episode that flickers with heat, smoke, and truth. In this special fireside edition, we share true stories of people who were labeled criminals. The individuals presented in these stories were thrust in the situations they found themselves in, and they responded in kind. We explore how the lines between legality and morality blur when the law serves power over people. Morality can be messy and such a difficult concept to define, and it's through stories and recorded history that allows us to hone in on what that may look like. How often is justice found not in the courts, but in the courage to resist?

Through gripping tales and thoughtful discussion, we unpack the dangers of legalism and the transformative power of civil disobedience. Whether it’s confronting racial injustice, environmental destruction, or everyday ethical dilemmas, we ask: when is it not only acceptable—but necessary—to say no? This episode is a call to conscience, a spark of rebellion, and a reminder that justice sometimes starts with a simple act of defiance.

He Gets Us: Part 2 w Zach Kidder

Thu, 19 Jun 2025 10:01:31 GMT

In this episode, we dive into the murky waters where religion and government collide, exploring how faith is being co-opted for political power. We examine the unsettling rise of religious rhetoric in policymaking and what it means for democracy.

From there, we tackle cognitive dissonance—how people hold conflicting beliefs and why it’s so hard to break out of that mental tug-of-war.

We also talk immigration, challenging some of the loudest myths and highlighting the real human stories behind the headlines.

And of course, no modern conversation is complete without addressing the wildfire spread of misinformation—who's pushing it, who's believing it, and how we can push back.

It’s a challenging episode, but one that digs deep into the heart of some of today’s most urgent issues.

He Gets Us: Part 1 w Zach Kidder

Mon, 16 Jun 2025 10:01:00 GMT

In this episode, we take a wild ride through old college stories that are equal parts nostalgic and mildly incriminating. Then we shift gears to unpack the rise of Christian nationalism—what it is, why it matters, and how it’s showing up in culture and politics.

We also break down the controversial He Gets Us ads: sincere outreach or slick PR campaign? You decide.

And finally, don’t miss our tongue-in-cheek “Prophecy Hour,” where satire meets scripture and the end times have a surprising sense of humor. Come for the laughs, stay for the theological hot takes.

Shift Happens w Joe Smith

Mon, 09 Jun 2025 19:49:38 GMT

Joe Smith joins us this week as we discuss a whole slew of topics ranging from the passing of Pope Francis, racism, eugenics, deportations and nonviolent resistance. Find a comfy seat and stay for this conversation as we dig into these topics.

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BSE: Better Stories

Mon, 02 Jun 2025 10:01:29 GMT

Shift happens. But what do we do when life gets messy? How do we proceed when our foundations are shaken? Sometimes a shift in perception can make a world of difference. The way we tell our stories can be a powerful tool in how we perceive our reality. Let's be the change!

Crossover: The Politics of Star Wars and Insights from 'The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire'

Fri, 30 May 2025 10:01:28 GMT

This is a bit of a unique episode as it is a snippet of a crossover episode with the Systematic Geekology podcast. They kindly invited me over to discuss Star Wars and the politics therein, as well as digging into the second season of Andor. If you like what you hear in this episode, be sure to check out Systematic Geekology wherever podcasts are found.

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Finding Discernment w Omni

Mon, 26 May 2025 10:00:25 GMT

Søren Kierkegaard once posed this scenario:

“In a theatre it happened that a fire started off stage. The clown came out to tell the audience. They thought it was a joke and applauded. He told them again, and they became still more hilarious. This is the way, I suppose, that the world will be destroyed-amid the universal hilarity of wits and wags who think it is all a joke.”

Life is good at producing absurdities. It’s easy to get bogged down in the mucky muck of it all, but what if we were able to find ways to step back and laugh at the oddities presented before us.

Omni joins us today as we discuss life, politics, family lineage, and finding discernment through it all.

BSE: Finding Greatness in the Ordinary

Mon, 19 May 2025 10:01:19 GMT

In this new series called Bite Sized, I will be giving you more short form content that will be more easily digestible than my longer hour-plus long conversations with guests.

This episode explores those who made large contributions through the ordinary, everyday. Individuals who, despite the compounding impact they had for generations to come, were so easily forgotten amongst the noise of the world. Let's dare to be like them; not seeking prestige, but by being your best self for the sake of others.

BSE: Easter 2025 Part 2: Application

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 10:00:22 GMT

As we learned in the first episode, the history of Easter as we know it today is a bit more complicated and nuanced than what we learned in church. If you haven’t listened to, I encourage you to give that a listen first. Today we will be talking about the life and death of Jesus and how his dream of justice applies to the world today.

BSE: Easter 2025 Part 1: History

Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:00:39 GMT

Easter, a celebration and remembrance through the death of Jesus Christ…or more commonly eulogized as a lesson about the immortality of the soul and the promise of eternal life someday in heaven. That is, at least, my experience of a common message I would hear growing up in the church. This first episode will be very heavy on history and mythologies, and if you stay tuned to tomorrow’s episode, that will be application and how this all relates to the world today. My hope for these two episodes is to talk about questions that I have been wrestling with over the years as well as bringing in concepts that may challenge your perception of how we see Easter and how the life and death of Jesus Christ speaks into our lives moving forward.

Christian Taoism w Joshua Noel

Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:00:42 GMT

Today we will be talk Taoism, and more specifically Christian-Taoism, with my guest Joshua Noel. Taoism is an ancient Chinese philosophy and religious tradition. But how do Christianity and Taoism crossroad and do they work with each other without getting in the way of their core principles? Joshua and I get into it and discuss this question along with many others.

Joshua is a licensed minister, an aspiring Taoist Christian, an open theist (not process), taught hermeneutics & children's church for many years. He has been a podcaster for a long time with the Anazao podcast network. Under the umbrella of Anazao, you can find him as part of the Whole Church Pod, Systematic Geekology, and Dummy for Theology. He also has his own substack.

The Truth[er] w Zach Kidder

Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:01:36 GMT

Today we talk with our guest Zach Kidder about the struggle to find truth in a world where misinformation and disinformation run rampant.

All ideas and viewpoints presented should be taken as opinion.

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Servant Leadership w Brandon Forman

Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:01:38 GMT

This episode we dive into what it means to be a servant leader and the qualities that people who exhibit servant leadership usually have with my guest Brandon Forman. Brandon is a library professional who has been working in the libraries for 20 years and has a masters in library and information science.

The term "servant leadership" was coined by Robert Greenleaf, a twentieth-century researcher who was skeptical about traditional leadership styles that focus on more authoritarian relationships between employers and employees.

Greenleaf put forward 10 principles of servant leadership: listening; empathy; healing; awareness; persuasion; conceptualization; foresight; stewardship; commitment to the growth of people; and building community.

All ideas and viewpoints presented should be taken as opinion.

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Captain America: Brave New World w Will Rose

Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:27:13 GMT

Today we talk the latest Marvel film Captain America: Brave New World with my guest Will Rose. With everything going on in our socio-political atmosphere here in America, as well as the rest of the world, we both viewed Brave New World in a different light than just your typical superhero flick. Whether it be racism, global tensions, an unhinged president, the treatment of military veterans, or military propaganda to curb the record low recruitment crisis, this film gave us plenty to talk about. We truly hope you enjoy our conversation.

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Is Christian Nationalism Good For Society? Part 2 w Sarah

Mon, 03 Feb 2025 13:01:15 GMT

Part 2 of our conversation with Sarah about the question, "Is Christian Nationalism bad for society?" as we dig deeper in the good, the bad, and the ugly.

A big thanks to Ryan Canty's book Deweaponize for some of the info in this episode.

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Is Christian Nationalism Good For Society? Part 1 w Sarah

Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:01:14 GMT

The Question: Is christian nationalism good for society?

My guest Sarah and I attempt to tackle this question as we look at what history shows, what the Bible says, and the morality that guides our decisions.

All ideas and viewpoints presented should be taken as opinion.

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Movies, Pop Culture, & Artificial Intelligence w Daniel Thompson

Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:01:04 GMT

Movies and pop culture intersects with artificial intelligence in so many ways that it's difficult to keep up with it all. My guest Daniel Thompson and I dig into the topic of artificial intelligence and how it's tied to life as we know it.

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Deweaponize the Bible w Ryan Canty

Mon, 13 Jan 2025 09:00:37 GMT

Ryan Canty joins me to deweaponize the Bible and show you that there is a larger story behind the words regularly used to demonize and dehumanize marginalized peoples from behind the pulpit.

Ryan is promoting his book called "Deweaponize" which is out now. It is a very accessible read for anyone interested in learning more about the topics discussed in our episode. Get it for yourself or as a gift for the loved one in your family that may benefit from a little flexibility in their theological world view.

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Food In Heaven w Dan Lee

Mon, 16 Dec 2024 09:00:20 GMT

Have you ever wondered if we will eat food in heaven? How about if we poop in heaven? Dan Lee and I have a discussion going over why we think this may or may not be the case. Grab your favorite food or drink and cozy up on that shiny throne while we jump right in.

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Religious Trauma & Creating Safe Space w/ Mike Maeshiro

Mon, 09 Dec 2024 09:00:20 GMT

I invited Mike Maeshiro to have a conversation about creating safe spaces for those who hold trauma from religious institutions and churches. I learned a lot through this conversation as we talked about mourning with those who mourn (Romans 12:15), being slow to speaking and quick to listening, as well as what it looks like to put in the hard work of creating a safe space for those grieving or mourning.

Join us as we dig deep into this space.

You can find more information about Mike through his website https://www.mikemaeshiro.com/ as well as through social media.

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Is the Pursuit of Money My 'Master?' w/ Ryan Chun

Mon, 02 Dec 2024 09:00:29 GMT

Welcome to Grub & Grace, where life doesn’t get feta than this. I am Mark Flower and we will be getting foolish and greedy for riches in Luke chapter 12 with Ryan Chun. So, let’s dig in.

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The Biggest Table w/ Andrew Camp

Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:00:27 GMT

In this episode I welcome Andrew Camp, host of The Biggest Table podcast, to discuss the table and what that means in bringing people and their stories together.

Thanksgiving is this week so we touch on a sensitive topic of navigating difficult conversation as well as looking at different practices that cultures around the world use and how we can learn to encorporate the healthy aspects they use in our own practices around the table.

The Biggest Table podcast.

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Ruth the Foreigner w/ Pastor Esther Park

Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:00:26 GMT

Welcome to Grub & Grace, where the music that avocados enjoy is guac-n-roll. I am Mark Flower and we will be gleaning some meaning out of the book of Ruth with pastor Esther Park. So, take this journey with us as we dig in.

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Living Water w/ Aaron Sanborn

Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:55:17 GMT

Welcome to Grub & Grace, where I'm on a seafood diet; I see food and I eat it. I am Mark Flower and we will be diving into the living water with a dear childhood friend of mine, Aaron Sanborn. So, let’s dig in.

Disclaimer: this episode conversation is heavily influenced by pastors such as John Piper, D A Carson, and Tim Keller. John Piper has lived in fundamentalist spaces while platforming people like Mark Driscoll. If this information is a big no for you, I totally understand and I invite you to come back for next week's episode.

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Grain & Wine w/ Ryan Parr

Mon, 04 Nov 2024 07:10:16 GMT

Welcome to Grub & Grace, where you never make plans with croissants—they’re flakey! I am Mark Flower and we will be continuing the discussion we started last week with Ryan Parr on Joseph and how he decides to wield his powerful position. So let’s jump right in.

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Dream On, Joseph w/ Ryan Parr

Mon, 28 Oct 2024 06:10:21 GMT

Welcome to Grub & Grace, where cake is just bread that believed in itself. I am Mark Flower and we will be taking you on a roller coaster ride on the highs and lows of Joseph in our discussion with my good friend, Ryan Parr, who is someone I’ve known since college. So, let’s dig in.

BSE: Giving Thanks

Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:10:09 GMT

Welcome to Grub & Grace, where bread puns happen when you yeast expect them. I am your host Mark Flower, and this podcast is my learning journey via discussions with friends as we share a meal. Today’s episode will be a bit different, than the usual setup, as I will be talking about the cultural practices and traditions around the world regarding giving thanks for food before and after a meal. We'll uncover its origins, historical significance, and why this practice spans across just about every culture and religion. So, let’s dig in!

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Happy Holidays 2024 from Grub & Grace

Sun, 22 Dec 2024 09:00:24 GMT

Happy Holidays to you from Grub & Grace. We hope you have a blessed time with family and friends as you celebrate. See you all in a few weeks.

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Grub & Grace Trailer

Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:04:10 GMT

Welcome to Grub & Grace, where food puns are my jam - they spread happiness. I am your host, Mark Flower, and I am on a journey to listen and learn through discussion and good-faith dialogue. So, I have invited several of my friends over to share a meal and chat about the Bible, faith, and whatever else happens to be on our minds.

I am not a theologian or expert by any means, but I do hope that I can bring my experiences and limited knowledge to the table. My hope for you is that you will be able to allow yourself an open mind as we present different perspectives on various topics. There is plenty of room at the table so I invite you to pull up a chair and share in this meal with us while we all learn together.

Music: ‘Everything You Need’ by Fleece Mob

Graphics and visuals: by Root & Branch Creative.

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