Jane Bozarth and Andrew Jacobs work through the tensions, evidence, and practical realities behind learning decisions. Each episode puts ideas on the table and tests them against research, organisational context, and professional judgement.

This is not an interview show, and it is not a scripted presentation. It is a working conversation between two experienced practitioners. We bring cases, assumptions, disagreements, and live questions into the open. If we agree, we explain why. If we disagree, we keep the disagreement visible.

The show is for people working in L&D, OD, HR, private-sector, public-sector, regulated, and mission-led settings who are tired of learning fluff and easy answers. We focus on the issues that shape real capability and performance, including transfer, judgement, accessibility, informal learning, AI, measurement, and organisational outcomes.

Send us your tensions, bad assumptions, cases, and questions. We may bring them into a future episode.